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Post by drakkhen_20 » Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:56 am

I've been looking at other sites :shock: and found that there poll with the tuning software that SCT tuning is more than all in %(Diablo and Sniper).Just in my opinion, I looked at all and did alot of "picking through info" and tech stuff before I made my pick. I found that Sniper would be best because you can pick and play with your software. Now SCT tuning you have to email or call or whatever you have to do and wait for them to make a tune.Diablo you can go to a site and download tunes and custom tunes.To me thats lacking user control. I like to get into the whole tuning and tune my car myself( True tuner).Now recently Pat and I went back and forth on the phone because I was having some issues with my car but thats because I am limited in my software(only own the SF software)which 2 months from now will change. I will be upgrading to the Commando software.But I guess what ever tickles your fancy. I would think Sniper would be tops.I'm not talking crap or trying to insult anyone in the post just wondering why SCT is 1st :?: :o
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Post by sniperpat469 » Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:23 am

I have been wondering that myself.

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Post by bgrd351 » Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:38 am

they are number one due to the pure volume off dealers and users out there. Doesnt mean they are happy. It just means that is what the tuners have on the dyno or what someone talked them into. Plus Sniper just released the Recon software so more and more will start to switch over to Sniper. I am one that owns the SCT Xcal2 and the PRP. So speaking from experience....I should have gone with my gut instinct originally and bought Sniper instead of SCT to start with...but I had to listen to the tuners that were close to me. Now I have the full Commando set up including chip burner and will probably become a dealer if I can a few things in line first.

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Post by drakkhen_20 » Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:36 pm

Well see I live in Mississippi and there are alot of poeple that would love to get there hands on this stuff. I would love to advertise my car down here for sniper but i don't know how.but like I said I looked at alot of details for each tuner and the only one I found that I liked was the Sniper.


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Post by kustomizedzx2 » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:38 am

the thing is about other tuning, is the forum gets comfortable only using just that one type of tuning (SCT, etc.) and don't want to give anything else a chance. I for one am going with Sniper because I spoke to Chris for a long time on the phone, and am very impressed with how easy it all looks. on TeamZX2, everyone uses SCT, and anytime another tuning program is brought up, they trash talk it and down talk it until no one wants to try it.

I for one, don't care for SCT, I think Sniper is going to blow it way out of the water.
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Post by drakkhen_20 » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:28 pm

Well I had the same thing happen to me when I was talking with a "Ford Racing Technition", he downed the MAF meter I was using (which is Sniper3000) and then tried to get me to go with a Ford tuning product and fed me a crap load about I'm going to blow my car up or something like that. I argued with him for alittle bit and then he started to get boring. BUT he did give the software its proper respect but to me he was trying to be nice. We need stickers on the back of our cars that read "Feel the awsome power of Sniper" HAHAHAHAHA. No for real though, I agree yet again.
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Post by geoffav » Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:11 pm

Recently I've noticed several boards getting heat from sponsor members who are SCT dealers. Sniper talk is frowned on and recommendations are treated as fiction. At least one site has somewhat banned a guy for Sniper positive posts. It's down right hostile out there sometimes. :o
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Post by Charlie » Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:59 pm

I have noticed the hostility to the sniper guys on some boards. Its mostly due to the SV's getting up set at the fact there is a better choice out there, that they do not sell. I suspect they are a little nervous at the fact that the more people use and share helpful hints on the sniper tunes, their business will slowly dwindle on the tuning side. And I have noticed also, that there are a lot more people interested in tuning there own stuff than a year ago.

I have ask several boards that I frequent about putting up a tuning section, so the average Jo, can ask questions. Only one seen fit to do this. But then again, the board was created because the guy was sick of the vendors running the boards info. Here is a link if any one would care to participate.

http://www.svtenthusiast.com/forum/foru ... y.php?f=64

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Post by Sniper Chris » Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:09 am

Up til a couple years ago there really wasn't any other option than SCt. Now that our product is getting out there, people are finding out there there are other options that provide good products, support and competitive pricing. My guess is that some of them are getting nervous.
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Post by chriswells78 » Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:29 pm

Yes, SCT has had pretty much a monopoly on the custom tuning market. Now that they are not the only game in town, they are trying to fight off the competition.

I pretty much got run out of the tuning section of explorerforum.com by the sponsor/SCT dealer-tuner of the board. He downs Sniper every chance he gets.
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Post by drakkhen_20 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:43 am

I think in recent years and studding and researching and poking and prodding at every piece of info I could get my hands on I found out alot about these engines and how the PCMs operate and so on and so on. But, I did talk to the guys at JMS one of these SCT tuner shops and they said that sniper has been sued from almost every tuner out there and are still dealing with it and that sometimes when a tune won't go on your' car and you keep having problems is because Sniper does not hold a Anti-Hacking Code contract with Ford itself and SCT does because they have been in the buisiness longer and I'm sure theres some buisiness politics envolved somewhere down the chain. But what that is is that computers in your car have certain codes programed in them from the factory to fight back at hacking or strange tunes that it does not reconize or have the code to pass when it OBD-II does its diagnostics. The reason it was done was because the government holds strict policies on pollution and such and when you trick your sensors or directly change your tune on your car from factory it doesn't run as pollution efficient as its supposed to from the factory. So back to these codes.... SCT has purchased and has a contract that says they get updates (For newer models, etc..) first before anyone else can. I'm sure sniper has some or they have indepth researchers going through a whole bunch of sets of numbers everyday to make our tuning possible. Who knows. I have nothing against Sniper or SCT for I have used both and found success in both. Yes my biggest problem is finding other Sniper Dealers or Tuners. I'm having that problem as we speak. But keep up the good work guys. You do a great job in my book. Besides all this typed is none of my business anyway. Who am I you know.... Like I said though I did do alot of research in the past two years.
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Post by Sniper Chris » Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:26 am

drakkhen_20 wrote:I think in recent years and studding and researching and poking and prodding at every piece of info I could get my hands on I found out alot about these engines and how the PCMs operate and so on and so on. But, I did talk to the guys at JMS one of these SCT tuner shops and they said that sniper has been sued from almost every tuner out there and are still dealing with it and that sometimes when a tune won't go on your' car and you keep having problems is because Sniper does not hold a Anti-Hacking Code contract with Ford itself and SCT does because they have been in the buisiness longer and I'm sure theres some buisiness politics envolved somewhere down the chain. But what that is is that computers in your car have certain codes programed in them from the factory to fight back at hacking or strange tunes that it does not reconize or have the code to pass when it OBD-II does its diagnostics. The reason it was done was because the government holds strict policies on pollution and such and when you trick your sensors or directly change your tune on your car from factory it doesn't run as pollution efficient as its supposed to from the factory. So back to these codes.... SCT has purchased and has a contract that says they get updates (For newer models, etc..) first before anyone else can.
Hahahahahaha, after being in this business for over 18 years I thought I had heard it all. That is one desperate and terrified dealer to be spreading nonsense like that around. Unfortunately some dealers have to resort to crappy sales tactics like that.
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Post by sniperpat469 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:14 pm

Funny true tuning story,,, Way back in 1986 there was a company hacking ecu Making performance chips for GM , Buick they were located in NJ Turbo Tune was the name of the company in fact this company was also making some chips for Hypertech in Tennessee.
the owner of the NJ company eventually went to work for Hypertech and did development
on Ford and GM ecu tuning calibrations, for a few different reasons he left Hypertech, and just at that time there was a company called superchips that came from England and was trying to get a foot hold in the U.S market they did mostly BMW and other European cars.
He went to work for Superchips working on Mostly Ford ECU and helped superchips become the company they are today. However his interest was more in to racing and developing a software that an Individual could use to adjust their own cars. So he left superchips and Started with a few investors a company Called Diablosport and that is the time when tuning software for the public was developed a relatively easy to use system which they still use today, during that time there was a ford engineer that was consulted to help with the ford calibration development for Diablosport who later Started the company called SCT.
again maybe to many disappointments in the way Diablosport was growing prompted this person to leave diablosport and start a company called Sniper inc with a few very trusted people, the unique way that the products and the software of sniper works is coming to fruition and will continue to grow to be the best we believe for the market.

That person I am typing about is me and I can tell you first hand there is no secret code ford requires any tuning company to have no anti hacking software I know this since I have been involved with every major chip company even some I haven't mentioned above. It amazes me when I hear some of the stories out there knowing that if I answer them or try to correct them I will be told I am wrong and how would I know. sometimes you just cant fight the fastest typer with nothing better to do that to preach on someones forum, you just need to prove your products and slowly you will get recognized
and achieve respect in the industry.

This is the path we are on , and I truly appreciate the dealers and customers we have won over I would like to thank all of you for promoting Sniper/Delta Force products

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Post by drakkhen_20 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:33 pm

well I thank you for the corrections. I meant no harm toward any company. These are things I heard and decided to finally post them to see if some of that or all of it was true or false. It doesn't matter to me. Like I said I used both your product and SCTs' and well actions speak louder than words. I'm still a Sniper fan and user. HAHAHAHA
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